You and me both. Car idles to a stall when cold but progressively speeds up to 1200rpm when hot. I’ve had the centrifugal advance to bits in mine to change the bob weights - new distributor came with 7 degree weights instead of the 12 degree ones needed. I made sure nothing was sticking and it made no difference to the idle speed.
It is kind of annoying - I’ve just come back from a 50 mile drive and it’s not that big an issue but I would like to work out why it’s doing it. The carburation is fine, it’s not showing any signs of weakness, hesitation or anything and the timing is correct by my strobe light.
what would you call “cold”? I set idle (1000 rpm rather than 900, to be easy on the bearings) when the engine is at operating temperature (i.e. radiator hot, confirmed by the temp gauge). When the engine is completely cold it does not even keep idling (weber, choke/enriching device left closed), so has to be maintained by the throttle till it warms up.
It’s normal for a carb engine to run slower when cold, and to pick up rpm as it warms up. ALWAYS set the idle speed when the engine is hot… up to full operating temperature. If it then idles too slow and/or dies when cold, use the ‘choke’/ enrichment device to keep the idle speed up and the engine alive until it gets up to temperature. Also use your right foot. If the ‘choke’ isn’t hooked up or operational, then it’s up to you and your right foot to keep the engine going until it warms up. User involvement is required.
If the carbs are Zenith-Strombergs, then the Temperature Compensator will also help with cold running. Not enough to eliminate the need for the ‘choke’, but it helps. If it is stuck or has been defeated/ disabled, then the engine will have to rely more on the ‘choke’/ enrichment device.
A Weber or Dellorto ‘choke’/ enrichment device doesn’t include a fast idle function, just a richer mixture. The Zenith-Stromberg ‘choke’ also includes a Fast Idle Screw that must be adjusted separate from the normal Idle Speed Screw.
Personally, I think you’re barking up the wrong tree by going after the centrifugal advance.
If Webers, fuel level in bowl too low at start? After a couple of pumps on the accelerator to start the car the level would be lower, rising after a run.
It does sound a lot like air leaks. In particular whilst the engine is running run some oil over the carburetor to inlet tract flange joints. If there is a leak the oil will get sucked in and/or you will get some blue smoke at the exhaust. Check the brake booster for leaks too. Disconnect the hose to it temporarily and plug the opening to see if that makes any difference.
I’m assuming of course you’ve also done the mechanical check to ensure the linkage is not sticking. Rotate the throttle spindles by hand to see if the idle speed drops.
An old British car mechanic I knew used to spray gasoline on the intakes to isolate air leaks. Very effective as the engine sped up immediately. Of course I always worried about the car and the shop going up in flames but he was never the least bit concerned
Chris
You can do the same thing by spraying aerosol brake cleaner or carb cleaner… anything flammable, a butane lighter without igniting the flame, even hair spray. With all those sprays, the engine’s speed will pick-up when you spray a leak area, and they’re all a lot more safe than gasolinie/ petrol.
On my dellortos the screw you show in the picture is the balance screw not the idle adjust.
If weber are the same twiddling the pictured screw will adjust the idle, but also ruin the balance,
Mick
Could it possibly be leaking air at the butterfly spindles and leaning off the mixture?
As I understand it there is an upgraded bearing with a better sealing arrangement. Have seen them on the -bay but have no experience of them… I’ve got a bit more work to do before I get to the Weber fiddling point