My first LOTUS, a 1970 Elan +2

Not actually mine to own, but to repair, maintain and improve. This is the first LOTUS I have ever put a hand on, and have only see a few of any model in my life.

A friend of mine bought this car about 10 years ago as part of a package deal. He visited a car collector and wanted to buy a couple cars, but the seller said all or none. Thus he ended up with the Elan along with an XKE, a couple of early TBirds, and some others I’ve not seen. He never drove the Lotus but instead pushed into long-term storage where it remained until recently when he dropped it off at my place, wanting me to “get it going”.

I have owned and restored dozens of antique vehicles, everything from 1936 Ford pickups to V-12 Jags, but mostly 1960s GM stuff like Corvettes and GTOs.

I joined the group today to begin the process. Any sage words are appreciated.

When I figure out how to post photos, they will be coming

Now’s your chance to buy this car from your friend. If he drives it, it will become his favorite and you won’t stand a chance of getting it for a reasonable price.

Welcome.

I am probably the closet +2 owner to you as I am in south Austin. (There another +2 in Austin as well.)

Would be happy to meet up at some point (current situation permitting…) and answer questions or share my thoughts on the car.

In the meantime would be great to see a few photos.

Mark

Welcome!

Looking forward to reading all about your adventures with it!

Welcome!!

Welcome

I agree with the others - buy it quickly and post some piccies :wink:

Regards

Thanks and hello to all who welcomed me.

I am laughing about people encouraging me to buy the car now, before I resurrect it, My friend sortof knows what the car is all about, but has no real interest in it. A year or two ago, I bought a decent 1985 El Camino Conquista he had sitting outside the storage barn. It was all original, 88K miles, most everything works. I think I got it for half-price.

So here goes. My first picture is what rolled off his trailer.

If I can post a reply to myself, here goes.

First thing I did was to look at the frame, I’ve heard they rot quickly.

But I did not know how to lift it, and would never put a jack on 50-year-old fiberglass (Corvette lessons) so I used 2x4 blocks to jack up each side control arm a little at a time (a tip I got from from here).

Welcome - you will find the Elan to be quite a bit different than what it sounds like you are more used to wrenching on. When in doubt take lots of pictures and post them here, lots of experienced and helpful people here.

Shop manuals are invaluable, and there are some parts schematics here;

rdent.com/manuals/index.html

Welcome!!

Unlike most cars (and somewhat like the Renault engine in my Europa), there are things you shouldn’t do to the engine without specific knowledge. You will find good help for just about everything here, but I would entrust all head work (and if you have a Weber head it is a rare and expensive piece, though for $$$ it can be bought new) to not just a machine shop, but a Twincam-experienced shop. Doing that work right is very important.

For a Federal 1970 Elan, you most likely have a Stromberg head which is easier to come by but still specialized.

I have a Europa engine I bought very cheap because someone rebuilt it themselves without proper instructions. And sheared the distributor drive immediately upon startup because they did not know how to properly align the head to the block, something that is easy to do but must be done. :cry:

Enjoy the ride!

wow, I am already very impressed by the following for this marque.

got under the rear of the car to check out things, and was surprised at how clean things appeared. My friend said that he thought the car had been refurbished prior to his purchase, and from what I saw I agree. Rear brake pads had plenty of material if not new. Shocks/springs looked decent, rear flex hoses were solid, even the rubber donuts were in place, although with a bit of weathering.

I pulled the plugs and dribbled some light oil into the cylinders. I was pleased to see the engine turn over easily when I put some air pressure into the plug hole using my compressor and a coupling. Spun over fine through all 4 cylinders a couple of times. This an old trick I use for getting engines to turn over when they have sat a while, instead of wrenching the crank nut, or bumping the starter, or rocking in gear if manual.

Here are a few pics from underneath





Looks good. Looking at that Tbh I’d be surprised if there was much wrong with the chassis.

Do you have a plan of work for what you are going to do? Looks like it might be straight forward recommissioning of it.

It’s the very best colour too, but then I am a little biased! :mrgreen:

thanks mbell for your input

I don’t know what Tbh means but good to hear your opinion.

My plan is a little fuzzy because I’m not familiar with the vehicle. Fortunately, I have owned or restored a fair number of British vehicles including Jaguar XKE Series 1, 1.5, 2, 3, XJ, MGB, plus 2-wheels (a lot) BSA, Norton, Triumph and so on.My user name is X75 - so the Elan feels familiar.

my plan to revive any dead thing (please help) so far is:

  1. Is it worth it? (No issue here)
  2. examine frame/body/suspension for any fatal problems (nothing yet)
  3. see if engine turns over.
  4. Examine/repair fuel system (always something)
  5. check for spark, and repair
  6. check fluids like oil, radiator, gas tank
  7. get fuel into carbs (If electric fuel pump)
  8. spin engine dry and set ignition timing
  9. spin engine dry and check oil pressure.
  10. Check belts, hoses, wiring, solenoids, relays, throttle linkage, air filters, vacuum hoses, etc.

I’m also in the Austin area (Cedar Park) and I used to daily a 12/1970 +2S. I’ve also got an S1 E Type, so if you can work on one of those, you’ll find the +2 easy to work on. Looks like a sweetheart of a car, and as long as everything is there it should be a nice project. Mark’s car is in nice shape and would be a good reference, and I have my S3 Elan torn apart right now if you need to see the inside of something. We can have an Austin Elan owner’s gathering once things settle down.

tbh = to be honest

Before you get it going you need to make sure it will stop! Plan on rebuilding the Brake Calipers, Master Cylinders & Servo(s) if you have them.

Your list seems pretty good for getting it going.

On 9, don’t be too surprised if you fail to get oil pressure on starter, some do and some don’t… (mine doesn’t). I suggest disconnecting the oil pressure gauge form the block and pumping some oil to prime in before spinning the engine.

If the fuel level is low enough I’d suggest removing the level sender from the tank (via the boot/trunk) and have a look in to asses the condition and whether it need removing and cleaning before use. You’ve probably already found the outlet and drain plug (probably seized) under the tank behind the rear chassis upper cross member.

I agree with Phil that a rebuild of brakes would be wise, just standard Girling stuff so easily available and not difficult. Once its running I’d suggest changing all the fluids.

Thanks Michael, not sure I agree thou. Its working and slowly improving but still quite tatty in a few area (e.g. paint and suspension).