Early Stearing Wheel conundrum ?!

I cleaned up the Steering wheel and column for the S1 this weekend and it got me to thinking about the steering wheel again - it’s unusual for an early car , its both right and wrong - See the pictures

I guess the question asked here is opinions/info on if the factory had a hand or would do a special request such as this ?

Before we go down the path of it never happened - - There is a picture of one in the Chris Harvey book on Elite Elan and Europa… Interesting to see who’s car had it done -


It looks very similar to my S3 S/E wheel, which was original to the car, and to the late S2 S/E I believe. Yours maybe a little thicker in the rim, but that’s not a bad thing! It’s period, it’s the right style and looks right on the car. My Elite has something similar, although it’s 14 inch diameter and for me, nicer than the woodrim. I’m sure my car didn’t come out of the factory with this wheel, but it’s certainly staying!

Mark


Mark that Elan has either got a prescription windscreen in or the driver has a very big heed (with acknowledgement to Billy Connolly!).

Wasn’t that the story that he told his father that with modern technology you could get a windscreen with prescription glass and his father did fall for that one by going to the dealership afterwards to enquire?

Ford did an April Fool on that theme last year:

talkingmotors.com/industry-n … creen.html

I liked the comment below from someone who fell for it:

:slight_smile:

Back to the question of early steering wheels, you do see two distinct arrangements of the spokes, one where they are equally spaced (ie at “ten to two”) and one where the upper spokes are more spaced out (nearer to “quarter to three”). I believe I’ve seen both kinds in photos from contemporary test reports - but does anyone know if either one or both is “authentic” ? I’ve also seen ebay sellers say that the very earliest ones had studs in the rim (and of course these are the most valuable of all :slight_smile: ) Any opinions on this?

Paddy

The early wheels were indeed studded, and common to the Elan and Lotus Cortina. It’s the Cortina boys, who seem to be crazy about originality, who have pushed the price up. If you’re going to Donnington, Paddy, make sure you meet up with the Type 26 register lads. They will be very interested to talk about your car, and tell you what’s original, if that’s your thing.

Here’s the original brochure showing the early wheel…mounted in an unusual position!

Mark

Original or not, that wrapped wheel looks great and is bound to feel better than the thin wooden rim. I will have to look into having that done to mine. The original rim will still be there underneath if someone wants to unearth it.

On wheels - I have run the original wood wheels in the past and while I liked the look, the small cross section rim was not comfortable for me. I suspect like Andrew that if I were to take the leather off that I would find a wood rim, but am in no hurry to do so, I like the feel of this one and odd as it is the fact that the wheel shows use by the previous owners.

One last point , The Cortina wheel had more dish to them than the elan wheels and that is one way to to tell - here is photo, not real clear, but this wheel is a Cortina wheel - Mark, don’t tell the fun police over in the 26 registry - I did not have an option at the time as this was pre-internet and you took what you could find… On the brochure - IMO this particular piece is a pre-production artist’s conception of the car. It misses on large number of details for the early cars.

George

Mark,

The leather wrapped wheel in the above photograph (on the table) is a 26R steering wheel.

Eric

'ere we go lads; should be fun :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Taking cover now.

Nothing personal meant here Eric :wink:

Fire away…

Eric, I had an email from a mate last night who is restoring a 26R…a real one…and he said the same thing. So my Elite has now become a 14R :smiley:

I’ll bet there are a few 26R cars around with less original 26R parts on than my 14R now!!

Thanks for letting me know, Eric. I certainly didn’t know until last night, but it will be staying with the 14.

Mark

Mark,

It’s an extra cool item indeed and looks great. I believe the horn button is from a type 14 rather than a 26R though.

Eric

Uh, that’s actually a shapecraft wheel …

Kidding aside if you look at the road test of the SMART racing elan in the march 1965 issue of CAR , you will see a wheel very similar to this one ( no horn button). The Bary Wood surbiton Motors car had a drilled wheel, Graham Warner’s LOV1 ran with a wood wheel, The Miles/Wilment car , wheel looks like this one or the pattern being reproduced as a the 26R wheel… so only if you have S2 ?

Original - 14 inch

Reproduction type 26R wheel sold by Tony Thompson - 13 inch

And that looks like the wicker seat of a Fiat 500 Jolly, Eric, or it’s earlier cousin.
I think that I detect some experience / knowledge here on the old 26R, a touchy subject on this forum, but always a bit of fun. If you have such a machine, we’d all love to see it, and have you tell us about it.

Cheers…Mark

Ooops; sorry, forgot to say a hearty welcome Eric.
I also forgot to add that we’ve had some great fun about 26R’s on here recently; hence my, what may appear to be a rather obscure comments.

Cheers
John

Good eye, Mark; it is a Fiat 500 Jolly. I’ve owned a couple of 26R’s in the past, an original and a superb replica, but now my Lotus stable is thinned down to a 1963 Elite, a 1964 series 1 1/2 Elan, and a 1999 190R.

John, Thanks for the warm welcome. Talking about Elan stuff is always fun.

Welcome to the site, Eric. If you like to share any old pics of your 26R or replica, I for one would love to see them.

And the S1 1/2 would be of great interest as well, Eric. Each ‘transition’ model seems to be slightly different, and we’ve had a good few canters here about the differences. Early Elans have become very sought after here in the UK. We lost a lot due to neglect in the 70s and due to the low ? value in the 80s, when many were sold to the US and a lot more to Japan.

I’ve been running and restoring Elans for the best part of 35 years now, but the Elite (#1575) is fairly new to me and came as a bodyshell and many boxes of bits…pretty much complete, which was quite surprising. It’s a whole new learning curve, and all the more fun for that. It was bought from a guy who races a 26R and a Lotus Cortina, so little surprise that he had no interest in that nice original steering wheel!

It was this forum that re-enthused me with Elans, and the Elite is sitting alongside a 1965 S2, also bought in bits after being taken apart in 1974. Quite a few other Elans are lurking in the shadows, ijncluding my S3 Coupe bought in '75, but I feel that you can never have too many projects!

Mark