I bought my JPS 3 years ago now as a restoration project after my 1st year at Dundee University. I have had several threads on the forum but have never had one continuous “build thread” this is something which I regret now! However even though I am in the finishing stages of my restoration I plan to use this thread to tie most of my build posts together (excluding my endless silly questions).
It is quite funny looking back at my posts 3 years ago and I cringe at how naive I was then (and for the old timers don’t worry I am deffinitely still a rather naive 22 yr old but maybe one that has started learning the hard way from my previous mistakes!)
Even more ridiculous was that when I bought it summer 2009 I told my dad I’d have it finished by the following year, he laughed at me then and now I am starting to realise why.
The car is coming along very well, I have done a lot of work on it since these last posts and will give some updates of what routes I have gone down in my restoration since. I must put a big thanks out to both my dad (who is very patient and good at correcting me when I’m completely wrong but think I’m right) and his pal who own’s a TTR prepared S4 (now BRM 26RR) which has kept me motivated to finish (via shear jealously) but is also a great source of information. Sadly neither use this forum.
I now have a deadline which the car must be finished by which is next summer when I graduate (I am now in my final, 5th year of studies at Dundee University).
I will leave you with some pictures now as it’s getting late and to be honest you guys probably only came to look at the pictures anyway!
Finished the dash and electrics and started trimming the interior with carpet last week, that is all now done, windscreen will be bonded in by the end of the week.
Had a small delay with a leaking electric fuel pump in the boot, guess it’s always going to smell of petrol in their now…
Finished bonding the windscreen in today, very very pleased with the result.
The job has been looming over me for a long time! I also got some very helpful advice from Paul Matty himself over the telephone about bonding it in, I’ll be happy to have a long talk with anybody who wants advice before they fit their on windscreens in the future.
I used the trim that Paul Matty sells, I also got a sample from Susan Miller but prefered the trim that PM does, I think it looks better. Although neither trim are the same as the original.
First the window frame and plastic chrome trim need “body primer”.
The edge and inside surface of the windscreen need “glass primer”.
Chrome trim is then cut, shaped (with gentle heat) corner pieces added then bonded on to the windscreen taped in place and then left over night to cure.
Windscreen is then left in window frame for at least 24hrs for trim to re-shape and mould to widow frame.
Windscreen is finally bonded in place, windscreen taped and pushed in place to hold it while the bond cures over 24hrs.
Being in Scotland, unfortunately I couldn’t just get a practised garage to do the whole job for me (like PM’s local windscreen fitter).
I cost me ?50 for it bonded in, I bonded the trim to the windscreen myself (?6 windscreen bonding kit for the trim).
The Chrome trim takes a VERY long time to mould to the windscreen without getting any wrinkles in the foil. I have some very small wrinkles in both top corners but I am very happy with the result as I did it my self, the windscreen fitter I used (Kevin from Tay Glaze, Perth) was recommended to me by a member of my local classic car club and a classic restoration business. He was very impressed by the job I did fitting the trim!
The tape and the strap is to keep it in place as it sets as the weight of the screen tends to make it to want to slide down and out of the window frame.
Think I can start to see light at the end of the tunnel! Alex, hopefully finished for this summer, any local shows in Angus/Fife you enjoy?
Looks like Frank at Options is getting better and better at metalflake! On a serious note, if anyone wants to go down the MF route, get samples first as I found out to Frank’s cost. He is a perfectionist.
Yeh Frank is very good at metal flake, I did the paint removal myself by sanding the whole body apart from the original metal flake for Frank to match it up. I think he has got an absolute perfect match to how my metal flake was from the factory (apart from the hap-hazard patchy-ness). He even matched up the shape and size of the flakes to the original.
The pictures above aren’t the best quality though, it is not as “yellow” is it appears above.
There was a car with completely different “style” metal flake in Option 1 when I dropped off my car, (red and gold) was that yours Jeremy? (Bigger flakes with a rainbow of colours in the reflection from the gold.) 2011?
My car hasn’t been back to Options since some accident repairs in 2010 (rear ended - invisible repair), although you are describing my car. My car was repainted in the 70’s with the red & gold MF, so this is what I was after. Lotus MF is more restrained! Your finish is much closer to original.
I know Frank sprayed up a demo shell for Donnington a few years back (see pic). I wonder if that made it back onto the road as well. There must be more red & gold +2s than I thought.
Hi innes,
Were did you get the chrome windscreen surround? I need a new windscreen, but I am reluctant to get one as I understand the crome trim is not available in it’s original form. I have also ben told that the reproduction available is not that good.
great looking car BTW.
Kind regards
Jeff 72+2
Both new trims are different to the old big ugly one, they both do not have bevelled edges but instead both are curves but the Susan miller trim has a sort of “wave” on the outside edge.
The differences between the Paul Matty trim to the Susan Miller trim are:
PM one is stiffer than SM trim which is floppier (easier to crease the chrome foil by accident and hard to keep in a straight line/edge)
In the PM trim the foil is much closer to the surface making it look more “chrome like” and less “plasticy”, in the SM trim the foil lies deeper in the plastic.
PM trim grabs the glass edge better, aiding fitting.
(but stiffer trim potentially makes fitting harder??)
PM trim has a better appearance, SM trim has two “waves” in the foil on the outside edge, hard to see in the picture.
PM trim overlaps more of the glass edge than the SM trim and is more similar to the orginal trim in that sense.
Both need a little adjustment with my friend Mr Stanley to fit the corner pieces and both cost the same I think… Usual chat that I live in the middle of no-where/Scotland and have no affiliation to either company and have happily used both for multiple parts on my car blah blah blah.
Hope that helps.
Sorry if that’s too boring and in depth, most people including classic car owners probably wouldn’t notice it at all, too busy looking at the bigger picture. Just us owners know every every imperfection of our own cars.
Note orientation of Susan Miller trim is different between the two photo’s.
Outer edge top in top photo, outer edge far right in bottom photo.
(To explain the outer edge “wave” as above)
Perfect thanks Innes - how could these things be too in depth?!
Interesting they have both commissioned runs of the stuff from different (I assume) suppliers. Also that they didn’t try to replicate the original it appears, although I think the higher polish/chrome effect is an improvement.
Glamis castle event is very good with a great selection of cars.Just up the road from you too. The Club Lotus NE mob normally attend and are actively taking bookings as we speak. They use the Travel Inn just off the kingsway for accom’ and socialising on the Sat’ night… Great fun…They are a good bunch.
I try and attend the Fife event at lathalmond (near Knockhill) bus museum in June too. Usually on my own. I take the car and a scoot (or two). The car won second place 1st time there and the same at Glamis… I always drive the car to the events. Even le mans and silverstone and it has done nearly 10k mls with (Says he grabbing a large handful of wood for luck) Nil problems at all… Just finishing servicing it now for the summer season… It does not go out in salty Road conditions under any circumstances.
You can google for any info’ and dates. Glamis is mid July.
The car is looking just great Buddy… I hope to see it at some of the CL activities up and down the country.
Also had a good chat with the CL NE Scotland guys, a couple were also at the Tayside Classic Car show at Eroll also, need to get round to filling out a subscription form, lazy.
Reached a pretty big milestone today, drove the car it’s first 10 metres under it’s own power today.
(Reversed it out the garage, a couple metres down the driveway and back into the garage).
Boy getting it in to reverse was funny, selected 4th gear about 10 times before pushing it sideways enough (strong spring!) to get it into reverse.
Headlights fully working, pop-up and down!
Smiling ear to ear this evening.
A few small jobs here and there (front number grill, fix badges .etc) and some tweaking here and there (front suspension ride height) and then Insure for the road, MOT and TAX once the roads and the weather get a bit nicer in a month or so.