Suggestions please what are the prefered replacements for Battery and Starter Motor Elan +2 1969 . Are these units supplied by PM top notch?
All comments welcomed
Graham
Suggestions please what are the prefered replacements for Battery and Starter Motor Elan +2 1969 . Are these units supplied by PM top notch?
All comments welcomed
Graham
The best source I found for starter motors - lukemotorsport.co.uk/lukemotorsportuk.html
For the twink order the 9 tooth pinion and RH mounting.
Or for starters try:
I have just installed a Brise starter, and my Sprint starts excellent now even at temperatures below zero.
It’s very powerful, 2KW. weight only 2,5kg.
For the baby Elan it must only have 2 bolt eyes. I don’t know if there are more rrom in the Plus 2 engine bay.
brise.co.uk/starter_motors.html
P.Matty supplied my starter motor just over a year ago and its been excellent…
There is another thread addressing roughly the same area
lotuselan.net/forums/viewtop … highlight=
About the only addition is the Gustafson starter and alternator. It seems everybody starts with the same basic components. The Gustafson site claims their kit is engineered for the Elan. They are widely available in the US as well as overseas.
David
1968 36/7988
Keith Gustafson made his first starter motor conversion specifically for his own +2 before starting his business. I recall he was working as a machinist/technician at a physics lab at Harvard University at the time. Ouch, that was a long time ago.
Dear All
Are we talking pre-engaged or inertia type starters?
Can both types be used?
What are the pro’s and con’s
Many thanks
John
There are only benefits from fitting a pre-engaged starter motor – unless you are an ardent original gist.
The pre-engaged starter turns the engine over more quickly for much less load on the battery.
There should be no wear on the pinion and starter ring as the pinion is not rotating until fully engaged.
The bonus benefit is that you can get pre-engaged starters with a 9 tooth pinion ? a very rare commodity with inertia starters.
If anyone wants an inertia starter, I have one sitting in my workshop that can be collected free of charge.
Would that be a modern unit or the Lucas heavyweight type?
John
P.S. do the pre-engaged all have a “lump” on the side “solenoid” ?
The Brise one has an axial solenoid - no lump on the side
Alan.
Alan
Axial solenoid? so it could look like the Lucas? same size?
Does anyone have any comparison photos/dimensions/etc.
Thanks
John
Sorry for being lazy,just had a look myself and it seems that Brise is the way to go…any arguments?
Thanks
John
John,
Your conclusion surprises me - in view of the low cost FI option you took.
The Brise is a nice unit, but not twice as nice as the Nippondenso otions.
The Brise starter is about 1 cm smaller in diameter, which makes it a little easier to install. It is a little longer, maybe 1-1,5cm
TO EASE INSTALLATION OF THE STARTER put a stud on the top bolt hole --then you can hang the motor on the stud and use two hands for the nuts and bolts ----ed
I like that idea - perhaps next time. Why only one stud?
However, it is not far off my advice to start the top screw first before trying to start the lower screw.
Brian
Nippondenso options?
John
I stand to be corrected, but apart from the Brise units, they all appear to be based on Nippondenso units.
I bought my first geared starter from Doc Martin in the USA when the exchange rate was in our favour (britishstarters.com/), and that was definately a regular Nippondenso production unit CNC machined to accept an adaptor plate designed to suit a number of classic Britsih cars.
The last one I bought from Luke for my brother was, I am reasonably sure, based on a standard Nippondenso unit.
For quality and reliability I would choose Nippondenso every time.
welll when I thought of the idea I only had one spare stud --and it worked ----you could stud both if you are well off enough to have two :laughing: -ed